Reply #278: I'm not saying that - just asking

[Taverner]

As for me, I think determinism (if that is what you want to call it) is something that manifests itself differently in different people and species...

Take for example an heroin addict who loves to shoot up to the Velvet Underground and someone who has heard or done neither. Hearing "Venus in Furs" will trigger quite a different response in both individuals. Take two heroin addicts who like to shoot up to that song - both of them will react differently to hearing that song.

For example, a male dog smells the hormones of a female dog and suddenly he's in tunnel vision mode to breed with her.

We are not the same way, but to say there are not vestigal triggers would be nonsense.

As for a universal maleness/femaleness, I think we both agree that is BS. But to say men are exactly the same as women would also be of the same nonsense.

I think we agree more than disagree here...