You are viewing an obsolete version of the DU website which is no longer supported by the Administrators. Visit The New DU.
Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Reply #116: You need to become better informed on Vatican II and its aftermath [View All]

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU
olegramps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 05:04 PM
Response to Reply #84
116. You need to become better informed on Vatican II and its aftermath
Edited on Mon Dec-08-08 05:06 PM by olegramps
John Paul II was closely associated with Opus Dei for a number of years before he became elected pope. Prior to his election he was observed praying at the grave of Leo Jozef Escriva the founder of Opus Dei. Two pope before him, Pius XII and John XXIII had refused to recognize his attempts to have his society of radicals declared a personal prelature that would be answerable to solely to the pope. He not only recognized this desire but had him canonized as a saint. The proceeding were not without intrigue and several witnesses who had a extended association and were less than admires were denied the opportunity to testify at the proceeding. John Paul II also appointed two Opus Dei cardinals and several bishops as he attempted to destroy the doctrines of Vatican II. You should avail yourself of the documents and many of the prelates of Vatican II and you will be amazed just how progressive they were. Many of those bishops were amazed that Paul VI and John Paul II became so opposed to what they had envisioned of a progressive church. Those such as Cardinal Suenens, who had been entrusted with heading up the preparations for the council, could not believe that they had been betrayed. You can find extensive material at the Suenens' Center at John Carrol University.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC