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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 08:12 AM
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50. I fully understand what you are saying...
that holding a peace sign does not imply any infringement on fundamental rights the way Prop 8 would, so there is a difference between their advocacy and ours.

That's a distinction all right, but I'm not sure how important that distinction is. There's a line somewhere before advocating death and destruction, but that line mosves around a lot.

I just don't completely agree that anything can or should be done about their advocacy, except to get out in public and argue the alternative. There will never be a time when there won't be someone out there advocating a disgusting policy-- someone who no doubt feels our policy objectives are equally disgusting. The struggle isn't to find ways to shut them up, but to properly argue our side and let the flows of history decide. They are arguing ethics and morality from basic positions that are as real to them as ours are to us, and have that right to .

We're gonna win some and we're gonna lose some, and that's the way it should be. If we win them all, we are not progressives, or (small d) democrats, but have become dictators.

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