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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-02-08 01:51 PM
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29. I find these kind of Bushite crimes even harder to stomach than their slaughter of
100,000 people to get their oil. At least the 100,000 can go in peace. Not the maimed, of course. And there will be blowback, because those 100,000 are connected to millions of others--friends, relatives, sympathizers--who have thousand year old memories for grudges. The dead don't have to worry about it any more, either way, is all I'm saying.

But to torture a man for seven years. Also, in Guantanamo--four-five years of torture--and in torture dungeons around the world. And others like Ivins, Bushite targets and patsies, driven mad. These are worse crimes than murder. They are crimes against the soul, and they bespeak a medieval sensibility, of the kind that can slowly drive screws into peoples' heads, or pull out of their fingernails, or stretched their bodies until their limbs come unstuck, or burn them at the stake.

I once did some research on an ancient crime--415 AD, the death of a woman named Hypatia, the last of the Greek philosophers and mathematicians, and the last head of the Alexandria Library, an extraordinarily erudite and beloved teacher (she even taught Catholic bishops of the better kind, such as Bishop Sinesius of Ptotemais, with whom she exchanged many letters). Her death was ordered by the first Catholic bishop to call himself a "patriarch" (Bishop Cyril of Alexandria, still considered a "saint" by the Catholic Church). He was the worser kind of bishop--power-hungry, ambitious, greedy. (He drove the Jews from Alexandria and confiscated their property.) A mob of Catholic monks, who took their orders from Cyril, assaulted Hypatia on the street, and didn't just kill her. They skinned her alive. Why? Because, at that time, it was thought that being flayed to death prevented your soul from going to Heaven.

They didn't want to just kill her; they wanted to extinguish her very spirit--send her to Hell, make her unrecognizable to God, rob her of her very identity, and erase her from human memory. And they almost succeeded--but for the survival of Sinesius' letters and a few accounts.

To drive someone to suicide (if that's how Ivins died), by a seven-year persecution, is like killing the soul. In Catholic theology, suicides cannot go to Heaven, and cannot even be buried in sacred ground. For a Catholic, it is the ultimate sin.

The death of someone's soul--killed for power, for money, to cover up other heinous crimes, or for sadistic pleasure--is a particularly horrifying thing to contemplate. Death itself is not as horrifying. It is slow death that is the most horrifying. The death of the spirit.

Some folks may not believe in the soul--or in the afterlife of the soul. But I think all can agree that there is something special about the human mind, personality, and--dare I say--spirit. We know it when we see it. A person's energy, positive outlook, ability to recover from set-backs, freedom, creativity, humor, delight. Sometimes we see it sucked out of the old, because of physical ailments--although old people can also retain their...spark of life, their spirit, despite ailments. True grit? Life force? Chi? We have a lot of names for it. It is plainly visible when you see someone die. The spark leaves. And it is far more than motion and activity--or the functions of the heart or the kidneys or the bowels. There was something there that was more than the sum of its bodily parts, and it is gone. We may not all agree on what happens next. But I think we probably all agree that what animated that person was not mechanistic and not easily explainable--no matter how much we delve into it with scientific methods. Something similar is true of animal deaths, but it is not the same. This is why murdering a human is a crime--and killing an animal generally is not.

So, to persecute and damage a human spirit is a particularly heinous crime, in my view. The Bushites are guilty of this many times over. And they are also guilty of dragging others into it--such as FBI agents, their torture crews, their mercenaries, their bullied, blackmailed or bribed politicians, young soldiers placed in difficult situations and told to shoot first and ask questions later, the young lawyers they've dragged out of Bible School to do their bidding in the DoJ. They are harming the spirits of their operatives, as well as their particular targets.

It is appalling.
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