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watrwefitinfor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 10:15 AM
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11. A great deal was written then about the torture
of American pilots who were shot down in Vietnam, at the time and in the years shortly following the release of the POWs. I can't begin to cite any of it. I just remember reading many articles and treatises on the subject. And the concensus (outside the mainstream media) seemed to be that there was no policy of torture by the North Vietnamese Army. I've read reports that pilots were often (ususally) captured by villagers when their planes came down - the same villagers whose little hamlets and rice paddies they were bombing. That the pilots were often so ill treated by the people they had dropped their bombs on that they were quite happy when they were 'rescued' by the regular army.

Can't say that's true. Wasn't there, no longer have access to the literature or people who were there. But it does seem logical.

I just watched again "Hearts and Minds", the contemporary documentary about that war. It shows just how those flyboys won the hearts and minds of the people they dropped the bombs on. Women whose children and grandchildren had been killed. little old ladies standing outside their former homes, pointing out where their kitchen had been; where their sister was sitting when the bomb wiped her and her house out. If you haven't seen this movie I strongly recommend it. Watch one of the guys who dropped bombs talk about what it was like. Daniel Ellsberg has a big role in this film, too.

You are brave to mention this in public. It is generally frowned upon to say anything positive about the Vietnamese anymore. And god help the person who even suggests that McCain was not a hero. We who weren't swallowing the propaganda knew differently then. It takes more than getting shot down while dropping bombs on civilians to make a hero.

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