You are viewing an obsolete version of the DU website which is no longer supported by the Administrators. Visit The New DU.
Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login

Reply #24: I'm not upset with you, bobbolink, [View All]

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU
Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 08:22 PM
Response to Reply #23
24. I'm not upset with you, bobbolink,
when I put a proposition out there, I'm looking for criticism along with affirmation, as I stated above, I don't have all the answers, but that's what I believe the Internet works well as, a pooling place of ideas and you can't have an action before you have an idea.

I understand you're on the front line of harsh reality now, and I don't want to come across as cold, but I want that number reduced, so some of these ideas such as the gardens may or may not apply to everyone. Having said that if it keeps more people off the street and fewer dependent on going to food banks and competing for limited resources, wouldn't that be of some help to the homeless even if in an indirect way?

But to answer your questions, here goes.

1. Regarding the disabled or ill, maybe the tax laws can be changed to give a tax credit or subsidy to those that can work gardens and use some of the produce toward feeding the disabled or ill in their neighborhoods.

2. Regarding those not making it at all, again the tax laws can be changed to give a credit for seed, supplies purchase of vacant or unused lots, maybe even labor. If local stores purchased maybe 10%-15% of the produce and sold it, the profits could go in to a fund to help cover the ongoing cost. After so many years, maybe the tax credit could be reduced as the fund grows.

3. Regarding child care and single parents, the communities need to pull together and help one another, maybe the gardens could spark that dynamic and give them a common ground. If someone isn't physically able to work a garden, maybe they could babysit for someone who can. This could be their contribution. For people working two or three jobs, maybe a tax credit could be given to their employer to pay their employees to work the gardens instead.

4. Regarding the old, answer number one for the disabled and sick could apply to them as well.

5. Regarding communities with no gardens, I believe tax credits could be given to banks or credit unions to finance the start up costs.

I see two other side benefit for the poor having gardens.

1. The poor have the worst nutrition, high in fat and sugar, low in fiber not able to afford good food. I believe there would be fewer sick and ill should their nutrition improve with more fresh vegetables and or fruit which is high in fiber.

2. The other is exercise from working gardens, not all but many poor suffer from diabetes and being overweight and thus lead sedentary lives, lacking energy because they don't have the calories to burn.

As I said at the very beginning, I don't have all the answers, however I believe the more this can adopted as a national strategy to combat poverty and hunger, the better off everyone will be and that most certainly includes the poor and homeless.

One other point you said no one is listening to your ideas, if you have any suggestions or criticism or some other idea, I haven't thought of, I'm listening and my feelings wont get hurt.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators

Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC