Reply #26: True --

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And to what degree Catholic Churches here tried to reinforce that thinking, I don't know ---

However, Pope John XXIII who created Vatican II and gave the church a more compassionate and human face, told Catholics to use their own consciences to decide for themselves on matters of birth control. Some Catholics have made claim to their own consciences. ---Thank Heavens!

I would consider abortion a form of birth control, especially now with the Morning After pill
and RU486 ---

Pope John XXIII's comments/Vatican II also pretty much kicked "Papal infallibity" in the butt and
off the stage --

You've probably noticed, however, that since then, we've had a church-based right-wing attack on Vatican II . . .