Reply #226: Yet when those other western democracies ban guns....

[krispos42]

the murder rate either doesn't move, or moves up. :shrug: The Aussies and the Brits have done that.

But what's truly interesting about the Brit and Aussie gun bans is that when they were passed, they wre not marketed as a "crime-control" measure, but as a "mass-shooting" control measure. The UK had two bad incidents, one in 1988 and another in 1997, and the Aussies had one in the '90s. I guess that, as a "mass shooting" control measure you could argue that it has worked. But as a crime-control measure, which is what people in the States argue that heavy gun restricitons will be, it hasn't worked.


I posted some graphs from the Aussie government further up in this thread, and the UK's Home Office report on homicides and such show that armed robberies with firearms went UP after the 1998 handgun confiscation and 1989 "assault weapon" confiscation.