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cloudythescribbler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 02:13 PM
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4. This solution is unlikely to solve ANYTHING by way of exclusion ...
It would seem to me that the government is either going to decide who decides or decide itself. I don't trust the Courts, but they could at least come up with some sort of standard, including requiring CONSISTENCY. At the outset of the campaigns they include a HUGE number of debaters, and now, after a couple of primaries/caucuses, when there are FEWER candidates to include than the first debates, they want to decide who makes the cut. Even though the Court system is a machine, sometimes they have to (when in the spotlight of explicit public attention) at least set up something with the APPEARANCE of fairness.

All in all, I doubt ANY method is going to get authentic progressives without massive support into the debates if the networks, especially on cable, choose to exclude them.

Subtler but huge problem exists -- after EVERY debate, including the one on CSpan where Hillary Clinton answered the licenses-for-undocumented-immigrants question in more than one way and got called on it -- the talking heads have tried to palm it off as another Hillary victory. In the case of CSpan, they did acknowledge that the people responding to a poll picked Obama as the winner; but still went ahead spinning it that, in the words of (possibly Tucker) one of the talking heads 'Whatever doesn't kill me makes me stronger.

The same thing was true of the Nevada debate. No clear winner emerged yet it was insisted to be a clear win for HRC. It's amazing the mainstream media doesn't get called on this, especially as a pattern.

(But then again no one raised the question of the hollowness of the flipflop spin in 04, not Kerry or his campaign, not the 527s and not the mainstream press, for months and months. The first really serious treatment of it came in OCTOBER, once the image had solidified in the public mind, in The New Republic. (Jonathan Chait) and that article palmed it all off essentially on media laziness.
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