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LooseWilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 04:40 AM
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96. hope...
I know everyone's down on everything on this thread. I don't blame y'all. But what Obama keeps talking about is "hope".
In the end, that may well be all it is. Just hope. Maybe misguided, maybe without a chance... but hope.

What the hell though?... he sounds like he's being genuine, and consistent. He may be partially in bed with interests that would like to screw the population of the country... but there are few interests in this country that don't sound like they'd like to screw the population.
I've heard of reservations from Gay rights activists about some of the people he's been around, and now some of the foreign policy people he has around him. He's not them... but who knows what kind of shite they might convince him to fall into... Clinton on the other hand has "experience" with this sort of thing... and seems to have used that experience to jump into bed with these sorts of interests to greater financial gain.

Maybe they all suck. Hell, they've all sucked as long as I've been paying attention.

Feeling hopeless?

Get over it?

Hell, do whatever you want. I'm just suggesting that maybe this once there might be someone in the race with a chance to win who's outsider enough, and brazen enough, that he might actually try to shake some things up. Maybe he'll be killed for it, like an honorary Kennedy. Maybe he'll chickenshit out... Maybe he won't.
I think there might be something real in Obama. I also think there might be something real in Edwards. Clinton's been shaping her voting record, and everything else, for the last couple of years so as not to offend the "moderates" around the country... which in Mainstream Speak means the less-radical right wingers.
She's likely to be competent though. And all of the above will at least be a force of minute alteration, at least, of national politics away from the richest people in the country's interests.

You want to doom and gloom, so be it.
Personally, I live so far out on the margins of "society" that the powers that be matter little to me.
Try driving a cab in the #4 least safe city in the country, 12 hours a day, with no guaranteed income, no benefits, no health insurance, and no retirement plan at all... liable to be killed by your next customer, and doing it all in a vehicle that's patently unsafe.

Hell, don't matter to me who's in the Big House, not really.

But I guess this thread is about hopelessness... so I'll just leave you all to enjoy the Zen beauty of it. After all, once you've learned to suffer enough to truly enjoy it, then even that gets taken away from you... and you achieve Nirvana.
Weee... cab driving as the way to enlightenment. Why do you think so many Hindu's drive? (Most of Buddhism having been co-opted, via the Upanishads {the usual transliteration, I believe}, into the esoteric sphere of Hinduism...)

Who needs the desert, when there are so many concrete jungles in which to meditate?
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