"Nancy Pelosi Is An Accomplice"

[orleans]

randi had jonathan turley on her show again monday. the interview begins about 35 minutes into the show. (monday december 10, 2007)

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Randi: let’s go back to what you once told me; I think it was a week or two ago where you told me that you believe there was some sort of unwritten sort-of-a handshake/wink/nod between the republicans and the democrats when it comes to impeachment of this president.

Turley: there’s no question about it--it’s well understood on capitol hill that nancy pelosi and others have assured that the president will not be subject to impeachment and that’s one of the reasons why they’ve been avoiding confirmation of crimes: the two most obvious being domestic surveillance (without a warrant) and torture. If either of those facts are confirmed it would trigger a series of events and it would require them to do exactly what they promised they wouldn’t do--which is to look at impeachment. But it would also, as we know now, embarrass many democrats who were aware of this stuff. One of the interesting things about this administration is how skillful they are because if you look at electronic surveillance and torture--both of those cases clearly are criminal. But once they started, anybody with a J.D. could see that they were about to do something criminal. So what did the bush administration do? They brought in democrats and essentially co-opted them by giving them information. So when they revealed to these people that they were torturing people they did it in 2002 when they knew that no democrats wanted to look weak on terrorism. But as time went on, those same democrats could no longer come forward because they would have to explain why they waited so long. It’s a brilliant move.

(randi recaps, jonathan recaps and adds more)

Randi: nancy pelosi is an accomplice, unfortunately john Rockefeller is an accomplice, bob graham is an accomplice, jane harmon is an accomplice, porter goss is an accomplice, senator pat Roberts from Kansas--they have just become criminal accomplices to the crimes of the president. Which are war crimes. They’re big crimes.

Turley: we have a clear base for alleged crimes. In the normal case this would go very swiftly to a grand jury. But these democrats, as you’ll know--with the exception of joe biden--have all called for a justice department investigation.

Randi: yeah, the justice department should investigate the cia because that always works out well.

Turley: you’ve got two things with the justice department: they’ll adopt the most narrow possible view of their own conduct and they will move at a glacial pace. It’s absolutely bizarre to think that the justice department should review a case in which high ranking officials ranging from the cia to the white house and including possibly the justice department itself could be indicted. If this isn’t the case for an independent or special council then I don’t know what is.

(more back and forth)

Turley: …something is fundamentally wrong (not just in our system but in our culture) when our leaders commit heinous crimes and then conceal them in joint agreements from the people they represent