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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 08:27 AM
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37. The Fight Is Against Immunity
Conyers knows this subject more than anyone else...and if he feels anywhere near I do, probably feels impeachment isn't good enough for this regime.

The actions that have happened are CRIMINAL...a political impeachment, especially a failed one would all but exonerate those crimes and prevent future actions...ya know, let's get this behind us. Conyers, like myself, wants a successful impeachment, but I want far, far more and those who want justice should be standing up as well.

The ultimate crimaes of this regime can never be rememdied by a bunch of weak-kneed politicians...it's gonna take place in criminal courts...foreign and domestic. It requires the United Nations and the World Court to investigate and prosecute the war criminals and profiteers (outside of U.S. law and beyond the reach where this regime can attempt to pardon itself out of any litigation). These cases have started in foreign courts and CREW and other groups are set to push their suits that get to the real meat of the crimes of this regime. Those who were interred and tortured at Gitmo, families of those massacred in Iraq and violations of international laws and treaties are the ultimate laws that this regime, its principals and enablers but be held to. Without it, this country not only can throw the Constitution out the window, but our standing in the international community as well.

Bottom line is Impeachment in an election year...a GENERAL election year...is a non-starter. The timing sucks. Besides the upcoming elections (and no one wants to run on Impeachment of a regime that will be gone on 1-20-09), several key legal question remain unresolved that could shield this regime from any real litigation...this is where Conyers and others are focusing. Also, any attempts to indict members of this regime is sure to meet with a pardon (just like Poppy)...so, sadly, it's almost best to defer prosecution until this regime can't immunize themselves.

There's no question this regime deserves to be impeached for their crimes...and I support Chairman Conyers call for a de-facto Impeachement that can pass the House and Senate rather than on that fails under the distractions of a vengeful corporate media and an election campaign. Electing large Democratic majorities in both houses will make Impeachment not only possible but will open up the flow of evidence that will make a conviction a sure thing.

Again...Impeachment only remedies a small amount of the crimes of this regime and then lets many of the biggest criminals walk free. We need to make sure there's no immunity for this regime (why the FISA debate is important) and that the ultimate justice is handled in criminal courts...not a political circus.
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