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leftist_not_liberal Donating Member (408 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-06-07 06:17 PM
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34. "they have been effective at controlling the debate."
Mostly by shilling "liberty' and "freedom" which of course exist only for those who are best off and who represent a tiny fraction of the mass of men. Here in Rome, where everyone is a $60,000 millionaire caught up in trinkets made by slaves the world over, liberty and freedom are an especially easy sale. Indeed the biggest question I have for people who drink the capitalist koolaid is 'Why do you identify more with your oppressors than the hungry, homeless addict on the street?' You can goddamn well bet the billionaires think of the two of you in the same way, and that is as Chattel. Well except that for most of the homeless there is no labor to appropriate. In that case, I'll grant you that, like Howard Roark famously said to Ellsworth Toohey, they don't think of that portion of the homeless at all. Nothing to steal, after all.

To reiterate the OP:

For anyone who would attempt to understand class societies, the unmediated slogans of those same societies are the worst possible places to begin. For feudal societies, slogans such as "Chivalry", "Honor", "Fealty", "Chastity", "Virtue" and the like, underlay a social fabric that was monstrous, arbitrary, and treacherous. In most cases the slogans hid social truths which were the exact opposite of their rhetorical claims. The cruelty of the joke was not fully apparent until the end times of feudalism itself or, perhaps, even after.

In our own times, the slogans which have replaced these are those of "Freedom", "Liberty", "Democracy", "Enterprise", "Individuality", and so on. It is impossible to know the meaning of these as given and even more unlikely that one may make of them as one may wish. In the present society, they are like virgin forests that one may stumble upon while walking. No matter how pristine and unfettered such may appear, in our contemporary social system that forest is inevitably someone's private property and is thus absolutely resistant to any other appropriation.

So too, it is the same with "Freedom" and "Liberty". No matter how one may "choose" to think of them, in truth they have only one source and one meaning.

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