Reply #108: Well this is physical interference/supervision . . . ???? Gestapo . . . !!!!

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QUOTE Has the FISA court, Congress, and Judiciary been fully apprised of how these units operate;
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One way or another Bushco relies on aggressive tactics -- Ashcroft in his hospital bed!!! after having been denied information to base any decision on . . . !!!! --- might I say, violence, to get what they want.

What do they have to submit to the FISA Court??
Maybe they've been denying the court info, as well?

As far as the few details I've found re the Senators who were supposed to be watching the intelligence agencies, what was happening long, long ago was that the Senators were being targeted and bounced out of Congress if they weren't sympathetic. So, for long time, info hidden. Threats to those who have tried to do their duty to keep things in bounds -- oversight.
We're way, way late on doing something about all of this.

We have to understand that the CIA is a threat to the nation and democracy.

And that the whole FISA deal is a threat to democracy even BEFORE the extensions.

Re missing e-mails and such . . . obviously we need some real penalties for this crap.