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Buttercup McToots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-26-07 02:53 PM
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90. On Crooks & Liars
anon Says: Im reposting this just to keep people on point

Do you understand that you are discussing the tactics of military based hegemony as if there were a right way to do that?

1) Wars of opportunity are international crimes. The US subscribes to this via treaty, therefore wars of opportunity are crimes in the US. The US has committed international and US federal crimes.

2) Torture is an international crime. The geneva convention is accepted by treaty by the US which makes torture a US federal crime. Internationally, the Taliban and Al Qaida were aknowledged as being covered by the Geneva Convention. The US has committed torture on both, therefore committing international and US federal crimes.

3) and more

Do you understand that the discussion SHOULD NOT BE ABOUT MILITARY TACTICS OR TROOP LEVELS. You are discussing the best way for a criminal to stay alive and succeed after committing a home invasion. The criminal will argue that he is there and there is no point discussing how he got there. The police would argue that is the actual point - how did he get there. The answer to that question will result in criminal charges. In fact, all that follows the original crime is a subsequent crime.

Do you see? The US committed crimes - internation and federal - by pursuing this war, acts of torture and more. They want to start history AFTER those events, just like the criminal in the home invasion example. They must be denied. The clock MUST start at the time of the crimes. You are having discussions as if the original crimes never occurred. Crimes were committed. All that follow the commissions of those crimes are crimes as well.

Will a surge work? Are you kidding? Put 2 million troops in Iraq and I promise you Iraq will get peacefull REALLY QUICKLY. But so what? What about the original crimes?

Does a forcefully subdued Iraq justify the original crimes? Bush, Cheney, McCain, Clinton, Lieberman and on and on would tell you yes.

I say no . in fact HELL NO.

It wouldnt matter if the criminal who invaded your home painted your bedrooms, he would still go to jail for home invasion.

The US is an unprosecuted criminal state. We must correct this.

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