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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-05-07 05:33 PM
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48. a few issues....
Edited on Fri Jan-05-07 05:34 PM by mike_c
1. The vote was during a political climate that is different than today. Most of the country was still shell-shocked from 9/11.

2. Midterms were coming up in one month. According to "Fiasco" the vote was a foregone conclusion anyways.


What about the dems (and one independent) who DID vote against the war? NOT one of them has ever suffered any political consequences for their oppostion to the IWR? Was their judgement bad in that climate you described? Events have not proven that to be correct-- on the contrary, the IWR has proven itself a millstone for those who supported it, not those who voted against it.

3. The Bush admin gave Congress a highly edited NIE that tried to sell the war. The full NIE has to date not been released to the public.

Yet the CIA was fully aware that Iraq was not a threat to the U.S. and the members of the intelligence committees were privy to that info. And again, what about the ones who voted against the IWR? If there was documentation of any sort that Iraq was really a serious threat, WHAT WERE THEY THiNKING?

4. The Resolution itself can be viewed as a leverage tool to force Saddam to allow inspectors back in. At the time of the vote there were no inspectors in Iraq.

Although UNSCOM inspectors had not yet reentered Iraq, the Iraqis agreed to redemption of FULL, UNCONDITIONAL resumption of inspections in September 2002, nearly a month before the IWR was enacted. Furthermore, their absence in 2002 was because they were pulled out by the U.S. in 1998, not because Iraq had kicked them out. There was no reason whatsoever to "force" inspections-- notwithstanding the fact that Iraq had disarmed by the early or mid 1990s anyway, the inspectors' absence from Iraq from 1998-2002 was at the request of the U.S. gov't, not the Iraqi gov't.

5. There was a big intelligence black hole from 1998 to 2002.

Because the U.S. forced the withdrawal of the inspectors.

6. Bush violated the IWR and gave almost no real reason to go in.

The IWR give explicit authorization for any and all use of military force at the president's discretion under the War Powers Resolution of 1973. The only way for Bush to "violate" the IWR was to have neglected to inform Congress within 48 hrs of the invasion. He informed them with a brief lettter that simply quoted the relevant instructions in the IWR itself. There was no violation.

7. Perfectly good politicians and candidates have repeatedly apologized for voting for it (Cleland, Kerry, Edwards).

As they should-- however, none have yet given a satisfactory explanation for their lapse of duty. An apology is not an explanation, nor is begging ignorance when their job is to make informed decisions on behalf of the nation. And again, what of those who voted against the IWR? They showed real courage. Is an apology after the war became a political hot potato equivalent to their courage?
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