You are viewing an obsolete version of the DU website which is no longer supported by the Administrators. Visit The New DU.
Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Reply #28: ex post facto [View All]

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (01/01/06 through 01/22/2007) Donate to DU
davekriss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 10:52 AM
Response to Reply #23
28. ex post facto
applies to imposing new sanctions on actions that occurred before a bill is signed into law, and that seems to be the case here. Somewhere in the bill it implies this is doable because it is an act of clarification, not a proscription of new punishments, so it is not a cut & dried case. Whether or not we grant Bush the power of pre-Magna Carta kings depends on the judgment of the SCOTUS on this precise matter.

Note also that an ex post facto softening of punishments or criminality is allowed, meaning the portion that frees the Bush Regime of accountability for war crimes related to this bill is allowable, as it defines what in the past was criminal behavior as not criminal behavior now. I believe even if the SCOTUS strikes down this clearly unconstitutional bill, the Bush Regime will claim ex post facto if prosecuted for torture as it will claim it was legal from the moment Bush signed it to the moment the SCOTUS struck it down.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (01/01/06 through 01/22/2007) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC