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peacebaby3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-24-06 11:16 AM
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29. Of course, there are some. The military doesn't brainwash you to hand out
flowers. It's a catch 22. If you need your military to defend you and the Constitution, you have to have people that are trained to do the "dirty work" that none of us want to do. That doesn't mean war crimes, but I will tell you that war is a crime itself and you (and I mean you as a citizen of the US who is being represented by your government) send people over to a foreign land where everyday of his or her life is spent trying to not get blown up or shot, you can't expect them to not do everything they have to do in order to survive. It is human nature.

There are some that come in as sociopaths. Most are not. Some cross over after they get there and have watched their friends blown into pieces or look over and see their head or face gone. These people are now mentally ill and should be taken out of combat, but they are not because their leadership doesn't do the right thing. Some do things that are wrong out of sheer fear. There is no way to know who is an enemy in Iraq.

The military spends millions of dollars to train (brainwash)these soldiers to see these people as "ragheads" and "sand n*ggers." Most of them aren't capable of losing their humanity to that point, but some do. It has been done throughout history. The Native Americans were heathens, redskins, etc. The Germans were Nazis and Krauts. You had the "Japs", and the Vietnamese "Gooks." There were even government war posters that spoke of killing the "gooks" back during the Vietnam war.

There are some soldiers that commit atrocities and should be court-martialed, but your condemnation should be for "the deciders" and not the peons on the front lines.

I think saying "many" commit war crimes is inaccurate. There are 120,000-150,000 boots on the ground at all times and there have been 500,000 + rotated in and out so I don't think "many" applies.

My husband served over there for more than a year and he never participated in nor witnessed a war crime. The closest he came to seeing anything was when he was going through Basra on the way to Baghdad. At that time, Basra was under the British troops and my husband's convoy was passing through and stopped. He said they were handing out candy and $1 bills to some of the kids and that a group of British soldiers came over and started shooting at the kids' feet making them jump around and then laughed about it. My husband and the guys that were with him got into a big fight with these guys. It got heated enough that my husband actually worried because he knew everyone was armed. He reported the incident to command, but he doesn't think anything ever came of it. I remember him telling me about it at the time because he was so angry. It wasn't too much later when an incident happened in Basra that made the news because some British troops were chased down, shot and killed by a group of Iraqi citizens in Basra. My husband said he knew it was going to happen sooner or later because of how they treated the people there. I almost hate to admit this, but my husband has a real disdain for the British troops since that incident. If he talks about his experience, he usually mentions how much he doesn't like the British troops. I actually scold him for generalizing, but he doesn't listen. We have some good friends who are British and live in London so at least I know he doesn't dislike everyone who is British!

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