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davekriss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-24-06 10:30 AM
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17. Um, there mere presence in Iraq is a War Crime
We as a nation engaged in aggressive war without the presence of imminent threat.

The Bush Doctrine (as spelled out in the NSS, the National Security Strategy of the United States, available at whitehouse gov) is a recipe for war crimes, as it says we no longer will hold back the dogs of war until perceiving an imminent threat, now that threat need be merely judged "sufficient". Whoa, nelly! That's not what Article 51 of the U.N. Charter says, which was ratified by our Senate and thus, as our Constitution spells out, has the force of law!

This war is criminal. Every soldier fighting it is committing a crime. However, every war is a crime against humanity, what makes engaging in war just or unjust is on whose moral ledger guilt for that crime falls. For example, every death in World War II was a crime, but the guilt for that crime fell to Adolph Hitler and the Third Reich, who engaged in aggressive "pre-emptive" war under cover of propaganda when they invaded Poland in 1939. Many were executed or imprisoned in Nuremberg as a result. The rest of us were defending ourselves.

Similarly, George Bush and his regime are guilty of engaging in aggressive "pre-emptive" war under cover of propaganda. It does not matter that Bush declared the right to do so in the NSS, it is still, by the standards the civil world applies, a war crime. Bush and his regime are guilty of war crimes. The guilt for the crimes each individual soldier commits in Iraq fall to the moral ledger of the Bush Regime. This rogue State apparatus commits crimes in our name. This war must be stopped.

(I'm not a lawyer, I just play one on this post, but I'd like to hear any legal argument that yields a different conclusion -- maybe I have it wrong?)
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