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HamdenRice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 11:59 AM
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18. No one posted excerpts of Apocalypto on DU
Edited on Tue Jul-17-07 12:02 PM by HamdenRice
You have posted extensively from Quinn to DU and provided links to Quinn's site which has extensive summaries and excerpts. Reading this stuff has given me a pretty clear picture of the content of his books and convinced me that reading it would be a monumental waste of time.

Each excerpt either:

1. consists of bland, obvious comments or statements of fact breathlessly reported as earth-shatteringly profound; or

2. blatantly false statements of fact revealing an author who knows virtually nothing about the subject matter he has chosen to write about -- demographics, food security and development; or

3. ethically heinous prescriptions based on nihilistic eco-neo-Malthusian social Darwinism.

As a number of DUers have mentioned, reading Quinn makes the reader dumber if the reader absorbs any of the lessons; if the reader rejects the lessons as stupid, false, portentious but wrong, or heinous, then what would be the value of wasting time reading it?

Quinn hasn't freed himself of any unexamined assumptions; he has projected his unexamined and wrongheaded assumptions onto a character.

He may fancy himself an anthropologist, but as a person who has read an entire cannon of anthropology of one region of the world, I can tell you that anthropologists are famous for how much they got wrong, and how much they could not see facts and practices that were staring them in the face. At least the community of anthropologists are subject to the self correcting process of academia. Quinn and his fundamentalist fans have latched onto a number of falsehoods and ethically heinous prescriptions, and real facts simply cannot penetrate their funamentalist helmets.

As for whether you actually believe there is a talking gorilla, you say so many flakey counter-factual things that yes I believed that you actually believed that the talking gorilla existed. If you now say that the talking gorilla is imaginary, I'll take your word for it. But you should realize you have so little credibility that it is easy to believe that you really do think the gorilla exists somewhere.
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