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DonCoquixote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-05-11 01:35 AM
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602. Humble suggestions
But there is one thing that I would like to ask.

Has there ever been an attempt to clearly define what a Ts offense is?, in clear, OBJECTIVE TERMS.

Now, some people might roll their eyes, but I do think some of the damage is because the mods have not communicated what is a clear offense. The things that seem "obvious" are often not, especially in politics.

There are some people who sincerely meant to criticize Obama, in the hopes of saving him from himself, and there are people who use criticism of him to advance their agenda, or avenge a slight.

Text is a medium that, even if you are a Shakespeare, can be misinterpreted wildly. Someone may never have meant to be a "troll" yet by the time the rumor mills, grapevines and peanut galleries get through, a person is made a villain. And there are some who know how to manipulate said mills, etc. to where they do not get caught.

So, what is my point?

ONE: if you really want to establish justice, go ahead and make a CLEAR standard, and give examples of that standard. For example, why not do a bloody F.A.Q explaining what it and is not acceptable, and give examples of each.

If I may humbly offer my own example (and I do mean humbly):

Reply one : "I really do not understand how you do not understand my point! Read the link I put! How can you disagree with me based on what I have said, I really do not get why people think like you!

Now, that was emotional, heated, but it did not attack the person, nor did it use any slurs, stereotypes or profanity. That is a reply that should not be tsed.

Reply two: "I bet you just have that point because you are a (insert stereotype here).

This reply could risk it, because the person tried to bring up a (stereotype). It also attacked the person, rather than the view. This may not necessarily lead to Tombstoning, but is a clear example of behavior that could lead to that, and the reader should consider themselves warned.

OK, yes, that sounded clunky, but at the very least, it provides a clear example, and someone who decided not to read the F.A.Q could not throw their hands up and say "but I had no idea!" Heck, make people read the thing or at least say they did before posting here. It is not like the mods cannot bring up enough examples of comment to highlight as "bad examples."

I also think that the mods do need to be diverse. Granted, I have no way of knowing if Skinner or Earlg are gay, white, black, or (insert variable here), but we do have a right to know that the mods "look like america." By the same token, there is no reason that a LGBT mod cannot be held to the same standards as anyone else, be they whatever group.

Lastly, I do think that after said FAQ was made, you invite some of the "offenders" back, however you make it clear that there is a standard now, a clear one, and that coming back is not a license to kill. Just to let the mask off my face, I am Puerto Rican, if someone called me a "SP_C" I would be offended. While most LGBTQ's I know are cool, I would also be offended by the term "bre_der", and have told my LGBTQ friends that. I have some cred, because they have seen me jump down the throats of people who say (insert LGBTQ here.) It's the Golden rule people, and if you do not like the religious baggage that term has, keep in mind Confucious said the same thing centuries before :"what you do not like when done to yourself, do NOT do to others."

Again, I offer humble suggestions, because frankly, while we snipe at each other, the GOP is laughing.
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