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Smarmie Doofus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 08:40 AM
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12. You might have to be familiar with public school culture....
>>>>>And as far as "teaching to the test" goes, it's only a problem where you have a horrible, bubble-sheet only test, which the vast majority of people that back NCLB would argue is the next frontier for reform.>>>>>>

.... to understand this but it is, in fact, a HUGE problem, bubble sheets, or no bubble sheets. I'm in NY. Part MC, part extended response. Don't know anything about any of the other states, but the teachers here are under enormous pressure to teach to the test. 'Cause principals are under enormous pressure to produce statistical improvement. 'Cause principals are essentially no longer unionized professionals ( they are *nominally* but they really are not.) but rather mini CEO's hired from year to year. The panic over testing and "data" that their level trickles down in a most predicatably Republican way.

Additional consequences of testing mania: the "data" is unreliable. You cannot collect relaibale data in the highly politically charged system that exists here. The reason is simple: with so much at stake, people *cheat*.

Also, to the very best of my knowledge, no teacher union is against intelligent assessment; I certainly am not. ( Why in the world would we be?) We are against the POLITICIZATION of assessment. We are aginst tainted testing. We are against ersatz data. We are against LOST TEACHING TIME ( as in *real* teaching time.)

>>>>>States like Massachusetts or Minnesota that have extended response tests perform far better than states like North Carolina, which only pays $.05 per student for the tests and has only multiple choice.>>>>>>>

How nice for those states.
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