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Desertrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-25-06 02:09 AM
Response to Reply #69
70. About what you just posted....
"Strong atheists, such as myself, positively believe there are no gods,"

In your very own words above, you are admitting that you do have a belief system- "that there are no gods. Positively."

Yet you argue that this is NOT a belief system when it clearly appears to be one. One which you will defend endlessly. If something important or even crucial in how you view the world is not a "system of believing", then what would you call it?

I think the whole discussion is premised that atheists are saying that a "lack of believing in something", is not a belief system. But simply by saying because this is a belief in the "negative".... doesn't make it any less a "belief".

I can't really speak to whether weak or strong atheists feel theists are wrong, nor can I speak for theists as I don't consider my self either. I do wish we could agree on the definitions and meanings of words, (which is what I felt this OP was about) otherwise we will continue to beat our heads against a wall and get nowhere.

I do not mean to insult atheists by stating that you do have "beliefs" (please note I am in no way defining what those beliefs are). But as there is no real scientific proof for or against, then all anyone has is their "belief"- positive or negative- its still only a "belief". One that you have come to by your own experiences and thinking. Why not concede the same to the other rational posters here who may take the opposite viewpoint based on their own experiences and thinking. It doesn't have to be a constant war, does it?

As for fundys and evangelicals of any ilk, I agree, no one likes to be told how to think or what it is they think.

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