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tiny elvis Donating Member (619 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-11 03:12 AM
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6. devil's advocate
the third premise is central to faith and shapes the world of believers
that faith comes from a not intellectual personal occurrence which is also intellectually anomalous
it is often called being saved, a term of faith demanding the third premise, unusable for those not saved

you have shown for the umpteenth time that faith cannot teach reason
i submit that reason cannot understand what it cannot name
there is a mythical description of the origin of peter's faith in the godspells
how does your intellect describe the origin of that faith in real people?
or, what is the origin of the third premise in a particular apologist's world view/alternate universe/dharma?

there is another presumptuous premise at work: that reason is the arbiter of what is and is not
apologists make quacks of themselves when they presume to teach reason,
but how will reason discredit the origin of acts of faith, which is the same origin for premise three?
will it go beyond contradiction and claim authority?

i did not defend the wager or apologists, but neither did you show that the full wager is central to apologetics
devil's advocate, for the hell of it. these statements are not meant to be factual
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