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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 01:22 PM
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7. If there was a Jesus, he was a purely Jewish problem, not a Roman one,
so the Romans would have no reason to write about him. Even if he was executed by crucifixion by the Romans, he would have been one in a long, anonymous, irrelevant line of common criminals executed thusly, and so wouldn't merit mention there, either.

But we do know that there was a movement of people calling themselves followers of Jesus, whom they claimed to be the Christ, and which followers were booted out of the Jewish temple and synagogues and DID become a problem for the Roman Empire and were executed and harassed soon after the date of Jesus' supposed crucifixion.

And we do have clear records outside of the Christian movement of the Romans very much taking attention of those upstart political pot-stirrers who refused to call Caesar "Lord" within a couple decades of Jesus death (supposed or real), who shared with each other, who taught about love, and who gladly sang hymns while being executed in horrible ways for refusing to deny their faith.

it's a fascinating bit of history, in that we have really no record of Jesus existing (other than writings by believers done well after the fact), and he wrote nothing himself (unlike other religious leaders we have throughout history) but yet a major movement began almost immediately AFTER his (supposed?) death, and we do have non-Christian records of that movement. And so if there was no Jesus, it's an amazing story of a movement being pulled basically out of thin air by a bunch of people who DID claim to have known Jesus, and some of whom claimed to have been related (his mother and brothers), and who were - if they had a mutual conspiracy to invent a person named Jesus - unable to pull the conspiracy off smoothly, because they sure as hell did argue a lot and fight amongst themselves, as well as they had absolutely nothing to gain by starting such a movement and had an awful lot to lose (their livelihoods, their respect, their families, and of course, their lives).
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