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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-02-09 03:18 PM
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51. There is a qualitative difference of degree but they're essentially the same.
"I believe in God" is primarily based on emotion or a feeling of spirit for it's foundation, however there may also be an element of survival logic embedded and passed down through the ages underpinning this belief.

"I believe that I believe in God." is more attuned to a logical statement, however just as the first has an element of survival logic embedded, I believe the second has an emotional underpinning of hope or longing to belong to something larger than oneself.

I believe the underlying logical foundation for faith to be based on the need for purpose, it seems the vast majority of humanity throughout history has felt this need. With some people the genetic requirement for this need may not be as acute, but I'm not certain as to whether it doesn't exist at all or is muted, switched off, until some crisis turns it on.

The point I was trying to make with my O.P. was that attacking the word "faith," even if you only meant of a religious nature is a shotgun approach, carrying subliminal overtones making it easier for some cynical, Machiavellian manipulators to abuse the people's religious faith and to employ fear in an alliance to defeat reason. I believe this is why some can't seem to preach enough damnation, fire and brimstone, while ignoring the more compassionate, loving, empathetic messages. I don't believe it to be a coincidence that structured religion has plenty of both, depending on the needs of the time.

Again in my analogy from Al Gore's book as I cited in the O.P. rock, paper scissors, if you own the rock and the scissors, paper doesn't stand a chance.
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