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laconicsax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 09:16 PM
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29. That's pretty much my point.
As an outsider, it seems to me that unless you can come to a consensus about what constitutes the most basic tenets of your religion, then you have no business criticizing the beliefs of others who claim to be of the same religion.

Since adherence is determined by self-identification, it doesn't necessarily matter if there's any consensus about basic beliefs as long as ALL adherents acknowledge that all other adherents are representative of the religion--that it's a big tent and you accept the good along with the bad. This of course is rejected every time a Christian side-steps criticism by saying that their congregation/personal faith is different or that the belief in question isn't held by 'real Christians.'

I frequently see self-identified Christians call out other self-identified Christians as 'not a real Christian' as a way of distancing themselves from some things that range from reprehensible to just ridiculous. As I see it, if there's no basic creed that ALL Christians can agree on (by agree, I mean accept all parts of without condition rather than encompassing the entirety of someone's faith), then none of you are 'real Christians.'

If there aren't any true Christians, then it's a meaningless label that makes a hypocrite out of any of the self-labeled who criticize others wearing the same label on the non-existent foundations of the label. Using qualifiers to describe a specific sect is meaningless unless that sect is universally acknowledged as independent. You can't label someone else as outside the religion and at the same time be unable to define what places someone inside the religion.
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