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jwmealy Donating Member (35 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 12:20 AM
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59. The broad prevalence of Red Shift is what raises my doubts.
I find it somewhat unlikely that persons in a position to rig an election on a wide scale would expose themselves to exponentially rising risks by manipulating results across the board. I suppose you could say that introducing random Red Shift fluctuations all over the country could have the effect of introducing enough "noise" to the pattern to cover up, at least partially, the strategic intervention where it counted--in the swing states with the most electoral college votes.

But that idea has little charm for me because it requires me to imagine that some force that is totally hidden, nefarious, and free from fears of discovery, has positioned itself to intervene at will in the varied election systems of some dozens of states.

Perhaps until someone blows the whistle or finds a smoking gun, everyone is going to have to use their own smell test. Something is most definitely not right here, but my money is on a combination of effects, some traceable to ordinary human psychology, and some traceable to concerted election rigging.

I totally agree that there should be new polls to ask people yet again who they voted for. Perhaps such polls can be designed to smoke out any pattern in people's disinclination to say who one has voted for.

One idea along these lines, which may be useless, comes from a conversation I had recently with a rather ill-informed and tv-dependent conservative friend. This person was under the odd impression that it was improper for me to ask him who he planned to vote for. He had taken the idea of the right to a secret ballot, and transmogrified it into the totally erroneous idea that his vote was some kind of sacred secret that he wasn't supposed to share with anyone. Given the statistics demonstrating that Republicans are lower in average IQ and education level than Democrats, I suppose that notion could account for, say, a half a percent of Red Shift.

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