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thereismore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 01:00 PM
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118. aye aye

You are probably right Peace Patriot about admissibility of statistical "evidence". I am a statistician and we call it statistical inference. This election stinks to high heaven. There is enough evidence to pursue, like what you mention, the machine bias in FL, etc. That's why I've been saying that we need to beat them with facts. Vote counts are facts - that's how they were recorded,
whether fraudulently or not. We need to go after the paper trail, the original flash memory from the Diabol machines, and start from there. The exit poll discrepancy is a great motivator, but we do have more and better evidence, which is the vote counts and testimonies of disenfranchised and intimidated voters.

I just recalled - do you remember when they came up with some astronomically small numbers for probability that the blood on the murder scene wasn't OJ Simpson's? Do you know what happened next? The defense came up with statisticians who questioned the assumptions of that calculation, such as the mean frequency of some traits in the black population. That is exactly our problem. Our equivalent of that mean frequency is the exit polls. Undermine that and we fold. No, we must not be distracted. We must go after the facts: vote counts stratified by technology/county/%party registration, plus testimony of election fraud, such as vote suppression. It might not overturn this election, but it might help us get a decent election reform bill passed, which is even more important in the long run.
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