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BlueDog2u Donating Member (692 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 11:31 AM
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128. There still seems to be a confusion about which of these
Edited on Sun Nov-21-04 11:57 AM by BlueDog2u
entitites is which. Here is my post from another thread which gives the best official records on the possible players. This shows that CIS, the company which lists Barton Watson as resident agent, originated in Utah (I got that part right), but also suggests that this is not the same as the company raided by the FBI (we both may have been confused about this):

CYBERNET INTERNET SERVICES INTERNATIONAL INC (0001070658)


This is the US Securities and exchange commission # for "Cybernet Internet Services." Don't know if that helps because I'm not sure what we're looking for....

This address:

BUSINESS ADDRESS:
STREET 1: POWELL GOLDSTEIN FRAZER & MURPHY
STREET 2: 1001 PENNSYLVANIA AVE NW
CITY: WASHINGTON
STATE: DC
ZIP: 20004
BUSINESS PHONE: 2026247235


Comes up in many of the SEC documents filed here.

The company was started in Utah in 1983:

1. Description of Business and Basis of Presentation

Cybernet Internet Services International, Inc. ("Cybernet Inc") (formerly known
as New Century Technologies Corporation) was incorporated under the laws of the
State of Utah on September 27, 1983. Cybernet Inc changed its state of
incorporation to Delaware in November 1998. Effective September 16, 1997 the
Company acquired Cybernet Internet Dienstleistungen AG ("Cybernet AG"), a German
stock corporation which offers a variety of Internet related telecommunication
and systems integration services to corporate customers. Cybernet AG was founded
in December 1995, and commenced significant operations in 1996.

details: http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1070658/00009283 ...

From search on the Michigan Corporation Site:

Entity Name ID Number Type
CYBERNET GROUP INTERNATIONAL, INC.
643414 Corporation
THE CYBERNET GROUP
515281 Assumed Name

*************************************************************

Searched for: CYBERNET GROUP INTERNATIONAL, INC.

ID Num: 643414

Entity Name: CYBERNET GROUP INTERNATIONAL, INC.

Type of Entity: Foreign Profit Corporation
Resident Agent: BARTON H WATSON III

Registered Office Address: 5069 MOUNTAIN RIDGE RD ADA MI 49301
Mailing Address: MI

Formed Under Act Number(s):

Incorporation/Qualification Date: 9-13-2001

Jurisdiction of Origin: DELAWARE

Number of Shares: 100,100

Year of Most Recent Annual Report: 03

Year of Most Recent Annual Report With Officers & Directors:

Status: ACTIVE Date: Present

**************************************************


Searched for: THE CYBERNET GROUP

ID Num: 515281
Assumed Names

Entity Name: CYBERCO HOLDINGS, INC.

Type of Entity: Domestic Profit Corporation
Resident Agent: DAVID ROEPKE

Registered Office Address: 25 S DIVISION AVE GRAND RAPIDS MI 49503
Mailing Address:

Formed Under Act Number(s): 284-1972

Incorporation/Qualification Date: 1-21-1992

Jurisdiction of Origin: MICHIGAN

Number of Shares: 60,000

Year of Most Recent Annual Report: 04

Year of Most Recent Annual Report With Officers & Directors: 04

Status: ACTIVE Date: Present

*****************************************************

Here is a bit on how "New Century Technologies Corporation" became CyberNET-- namely, while still in Utah, they acquired the German company named CyberNET. So, although it is listed legally as a foreign profit corporation in the Michigan State records, it obtained this status through acquisition and merger in 1997:

News Release
Thursday 17 April 1997, 16:57 GMT Thursday 17 April 1997
BUSINESS
New Century Technologies


NEW CENTURY TECHNOLOGIES SIGNS LETTER OF INTENT FOR THE ACQUISITION OF CYBERNET AG


Salt Lake City, Utah, April 17 - New Century Technologies Corp. ("The Company") is pleased to announce that it has signed a letter of intent for the acquisition of 100% of the issued and outstanding stock of CYBERNET AG, a private German corporation ("CYBERNET") which is a leading business Internet provider headquartered in Munich, Germany.


http://www.prnewswire.co.uk/cgi/news/release?id=18778

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Note that the FBI raided Cybernet Group in Grand Rapids. Why do you connect this with Barton Watson who is in Mountain Ridge? I'm not denying a connection -- just asking where you find it....

Never mind. I answered my own question: http://fox17.trb.com/news/111804-wxmi-cybernet,0,956334...


But, here is the really great thing. These companies are in fact the same, I'm pretty sure!

And things are falling apart fast. The lender to the parent Corp. of the Cybernetics Group, Cyberco (we need to check them out also) has filed a lawsuit:

http://www.mlive.com/news/grpress/index.ssf?/base/news-...

And Cyberco is suing The Cybernetics Group:

http://www.woodtv.com/Global/story.asp?S=2591580&nav=0R...
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