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emcguffie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-11 07:42 PM
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15. I am honestly not sure I understand what you are saying.

Exit polls, if they are done right, can give an idea if something is off. It seems to me we still need that, if we could get it. As it stands now, there isn't anything else, is there? I mean to just us regular voters, not to people involved in the elections business. What tips us off, if it isn't something like a poll that we, for some reason, believe to be accurate, or an exit poll that was done honestly and not changed?

Of course, now that we know that such an exit poll doesn't exist, then they don't help. But it seems to me if we could have a good exit poll that wasn't "corrected," that would be a help.

I agree with what you say we should have, but I don't think in the absence of those things we should just say, well, we need those things and nothing else will do.

It seems to me it's important to try to convince the American public that things are not all right. To me, that is just about the most important thing to be done. That, and fix the media, and I can't see how we're going to accomplish that. If the vast American public becomes convinced that something is seriously wrong, then we MIGHT succeed in getting paper ballots.

So that's what I'm thinking about -- how to convince the vast American public that something is seriously wrong.

At the same time, I still believe Richard Charnin is right. I do believe a chunk of votes is being stolen in almost all races -- in any races where the machines are the right kind and where they have the access to them that they need.

I'm sorry I'm not better informed about the whole subject, so that I could carry on a more informed discussion about this, but maybe I'll get more informed. Maybe I'll come in here one day ready to defend TIA's model.

At any rate, I remain convinced that this one of two crucial issues to the continued existence -- or, at this stage, perhaps the rebirth of -- the country I was born in and which I think we all loved and cherished. The other issue being, as I said above, the media. And to change those laws we need to win a significant number of elections.

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