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Reply #4: It's the voting system and those who forced it on us that deny the public's right to know. [View All]

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Bill Bored Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 03:11 PM
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4. It's the voting system and those who forced it on us that deny the public's right to know.
Edited on Thu Dec-16-10 03:18 PM by Bill Bored
Look, no powers that be in NY ever seriously considered the need to hand-count paper ballots to verify software-counted elections. If they had, the audit and recanvass laws would have been written a LOT differently, and so would the SBOE's half-assed regulations.

All this was entirely predictable and what Lipari says or doesn't say is irrelevant, except for the fact that he and his crew advocated for the replacement of lever voting machines, without the checks and balances in the election law needed to verify computerized elections.

In fact, NO OTHER STATE has such protections in place either, but most other states did not have the option of staying with lever voting machines. New York clearly had that option, but the state failed to exercise it, at Lipari's and some others' urging.

The facts are:

1. HAVA did NOT require replacement of lever voting machines.

2. Lever voting machines don't switch votes during elections the way ballot scanners can and do.

3. The number of ballot scanners whose ballots must be counted by hand to prove that enough vote switching did NOT occur to change the winners of elections can be quite large -- much more than the paltry 3% that our election law requires. Much more than Connecticut's 10%.

4. Paper ballots enable other kinds of fraud not possible with lever voting machines.

5. Certification of software touted by Lipari and the State Board of Elections can NOT be used as the basis for certification of election results.

Until New Yorkers realize these basic facts, we are fucked! Just like Connecticut, Pennsylvania and the other ex-lever-machine states.

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