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demodonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-10 09:01 AM
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10. It's a weak 2% or 2000 votes in each county, whichever is less, and a mandatory recount in close...
Edited on Wed Dec-22-10 09:24 AM by demodonkey

...statewide races where the margin is one-half of one percent or less.

As I said, Pennsylvania as a state cannot currently enforce these laws because of paperless DREs in 50 of its largest counties comprising over 85% of its voters.

Without paper ballots in place statewide, providing something TO audit or recount, there is no use wasting the huge amount of time and effort it would take to improve these laws. Improving an unenforceable law is worthless no matter how good the improvements are. When it comes to election auditing and recounting paper ballots are the necessary first half, otherwise you end up like NJ. You may not agree with this strategy, but frankly I don't care.

I have never, ever said here or anywhere else that paper ballots without audits are OK. Of course audits are needed -- once something is in place to audit. Your allegation that I have lied to Pennsylvania voters about this or anything else is FALSE. Along with your crude and inflammatory statements upthread, this is nothing less than an uncalled-for personal attack against me.

I am also tired of your uncalled-for attacks against another DU member because you don't personally agree with his strategy for election reform. Lipari is someone's name, NOT A VERB.

Finally I am damn sick of the constant pissing and moaning about lever machines, and about NY State in general, from you and several others on this forum. Lever machines are gone. They are a moot point; NY has paper ballots now and yes, it certainly does need to audit them better. So if you live there, get the hell off these boards, get the hell off your butt, and get whatever the hell audit law you want passed -- if you can.

Otherwise please just shut up because constant attacks and bickering are wasting everyone's time.

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