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Stevepol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 08:33 PM
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4. I agree with what you say, but I still think
this program is a stronger argument against the voting machines. I don't recall now the proof that was given for the bad punch cards, but it seemed a little hazy to me at the time and relied on worker tesetimony. I believe what was done was almost certainly illegal and criminal as indicated, just didn't think the proof was that obvious. Also the discussion of ES&S's contracting out the production of its machines to the Philippines just sounded like a way to produce crappy machines and not deliberate efforts to steal elections, which I think has been happening for at least 10 years. Showing that the machines are really not Constitutional in Germany and are just blatantly un-verifiable I think is a stronger argument. I also thought using the Greene election as part of a personal effort to find out more about the voting machines in SC was very good. I just can't see how that result can be explained in any other way. It seems to me that Greene was planted by some of De Mint's rabble, maybe w/o DM's knowledge but probably with him fully aware of it, and then one of this cabal was able himself or able to get an ES&S technician to hack or program the machines so as to produce the result. It might have been Urosevic himself who did it. I feel absolutely certain that he knows about the fraud that has been perpetrated on the American people and is in fact probably the worst political criminal in American history.

Still, you might be right. Maybe there's more evidence in the earlier program and more ways to try to stop these machines from being used.

Thanks for all you're doing to make people aware of this outrage. Until the vote is transparent again in the US, there's no way we can legitimately claim to be a democracy.
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