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Reply #7: It's the replacement of lever machines with computers that let the camel's nose under the tent. [View All]

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Bill Bored Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 10:21 PM
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7. It's the replacement of lever machines with computers that let the camel's nose under the tent.
Edited on Sun Apr-18-10 11:15 PM by Bill Bored
Internet voting is just the latest manifestation of counting votes with computers. It's been inevitable since the first time a lever machine was replaced by a computer.

Op Scan came right after punch cards, and by then it was already too late to stop it.

As you say, no one wants to do hand counts. Yet hand counts are the ONLY way to know that the scanners, DREs, or Internet(s) counted the paper ballots correctly, or even if the right persons won the elections.

Doesn't that BOTHER YOU? It sure as hell bothers me.

So if you admit that no one wants to do hand counts, and you claim they are subject to fraud anyway, the only logical solution for a state such as NY is to keep its lever voting system.

As for the other states that replaced levers with computers as long ago as the 1960s, hey man, that's their problem! It's not like Roy Saltman and others haven't been pointing out the need to do a proper audit since the 1970s. But it's clear that no one paid any attention to them, and still won't, because a proper audit means significant amounts of hand counting, which, as you say, nobody wants to do. Of course, disco still sucks too!
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