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Reply #71: NY state is making no arguments for levers; the people of NY State are. [View All]

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Bill Bored Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-14-09 04:25 AM
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71. NY state is making no arguments for levers; the people of NY State are.
The people of PA made no arguments against levers; the State of PA did.

It's very unlikely that a statistical audit would provide as much accuracy as a properly maintained lever voting system. It's really a poor substitute, esp. for local elections, but it can be good enough to find out who won many other elections if anyone actually does it right. Such procedures are too complex for most election officials and election lawyers to want to get involved with however.

But they know how to run lever elections! Those involve adding, subtracting, and inspecting the machines. And they know how to get affidavits of how voters voted if there are a lot of undervotes in a close election. That's how it's done with levers. Relatively simple.

2+2=4, so if there were 4 voters and 2 undervotes, and the victory margin is 1 vote, get affidavits from the 4 voters, or hold a new election. Simple.

With scanned paper ballots, it's count and recount, and scan and rescan, until the party in power gets the result they want -- and that's if you're lucky enough to live in a state where recounts are even allowed. That's better than DREs, but it's not necessarily better than levers. The voter intent problem alone is enough to change the outcome of a close paper ballot election, and so is the chain of custody problem. I'm just not convinced that when all is said and done, it's any better than levers, and it's probably a LOT more expensive.
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