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OnTheOtherHand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 07:22 AM
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10. OK, on these two arguments
...the negative Gore vote count in Florida happened in a system using durable paper ballots.

This is with reference to her earlier claim: "This is the industry whose product gave a negative count of 16,022 votes for candidate Al Gore in the Florida 2000 election, delivering the wrong President to America."

Under the rules of ordinary English, this is just bullshit. That "negative count of 16,022 votes" was corrected on election night. It may have contributed to the blown calls (which were soon retracted, for the second time on election night), but it didn't deliver a president. And why would it not be a good thing to have paper ballots to refer to in that situation?

Compare the ED in Chautauqua County (City of Dunkirk ward 2, ED 4) where a candidate for state Senate received 883 votes, although there were only 563 registered voters. The "solution"? Pad the total vote for every race, creating an apparent undervote of 67% in the presidential race. What else were they gonna do: keep checking the back of the lever machine until it gave a plausible answer?

The incremental step of getting paper ballots into every voting system offers a placebo effect to make people feel good without improving the democratic process.

This is an assertion, not an argument. I guess it presumes a certain state of mind, one that I don't share. In real life, paper ballots have been used to correct election outcomes, and that will continue, no matter what Nancy Tobi says about placebos.
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