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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 03:19 PM
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10. How many jusisdictions have a "long and complicated ballot"? How many don't?
Bear in mind, some of the poll worker shortage is attributed to the introduction of electronic apparatus.

We could, of course, hand count all fed or even statewide races. We could hand count many of the elections in many places in the country...and I think we should.

You mentioned not opposing hand counts while in the same paragraph citing an MIT study that highlighted inaccuracies in NH where hand counts are still employed. You mentioned, as well, audits for Scanned elections.

I have zero doubt that Opscans are more accurate than hand counts...while being more vulnerable to tampering. That's why I think audits are called for even if the election is hand counted.

I also don't instantly equate difficulty with staffing a poll with disenfranchisement, though it certainly seems possible. Right off the bat, it seems it would take more time to get results. I'll be patient.

Please consider that one really big thing going against Hand Counts are the Torch and Pitchfork types advocating it.

To me, that's not sufficient reason to oft post images of ballots of probably the toughest jurisdiction to manage in the entire country. To me, that is bias.

There are plenty of places where implementing hand counts would work fine and would serve as a bit of an economic and even community-building boost.

That's my bias despite some of the other advocates. Can you add anything to it???

BTW Dave Berman is having some success pushing Hand Counts in Humboldt County. I'm sure you'll want to offer appreciation on one of the threads about it.

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