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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 10:15 AM
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61. We have to be very careful - DU/Skinner message related. In support of Lala.
Edited on Fri Jan-11-08 10:19 AM by higher class
Last night I saw the message Skinner posted yesterday moving this kind of talk out of GD to Election Reform. I was upset. All evening and the first thing this morning I was troubled by these two sentences from his message.

"If there were any credible evidence to support the allegation of fraud or voting machine malfunction in New Hampshire, then I would be more than willing to let the discussion continue in our two General Discussion forums. But at this point no such evidence has been produced."

It is essential that phrasing be carefully considered and distinctions are made.

Fraud - and - Voting machine malfunction:

Fraud when combined as Voter Fraud is exactly the phrase that Republicans are using and used in all their manipulations involving the U.S. Attorney scandal where Voter Fraud was the issue in the firing. What they wanted the U.S. Attorneys to do was investigate and charge certain people of voting fraudulently. They flipped the problem of voting integrity and were trying to plant the concept that crime was carried out by voters requiring the 'government' to go after them and that they, the Republicans, and DOJ were being diligent about 'the problem' by doing so.

Malfunction. To me, that is a breakdown - a happenstance.

What has been discussed here on DU for years has nothing to do with everyday voters committing a crime or breakdowns.

What we have been discussing on DU for years is is Intentional Manipulation and Serious Irregularities and Anomalies involving TOTALS and RATIOS.

The problem also includes totals and ratios in relation to exit polling. And the strange firing of the exit polling company by the five networks who relied on the company for years and which had a reputation of accuracy (making it easier for the networks to obfuscate and create their own justifications for the anomalies.

It may have happened again. There is a suspicion. This is not a tin foil hat situation. This needs to be looked at because it has happened before and because it is Diebold. If it needs to be looked at, it needs to be discussed and reported on.

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