Reply #20: My conclusion is that there are indeed NO vote totals

[truedelphi]

If a party is stealing an election, then how the F*CK can you ever tell anything?

It was a theft - in both 2000, with the judicial coup putting Bush in power through the decisions of the Supreme Court.

In 2004, it was a theft, without a judicial coup needed, as Hillary set Carville up to whisper into Kerry's ear that there were only 150,000 Ohio ballots available as uncounted - and he needed 138,000 to beat Bush. (Some voter activists say that there were as many as 400,000 votes to be counted in Ohio. Too bad that Kerry never paid attention to that old song "Smiling faces...l")

Hillary also slammed Edwards for his "grandstanding" when he let loose with his usual fervor to the effect that every ballot needed to be counted.

So Kerry makes his concession in far less than 24 hours since the last Ohioan voted.

I do think that statements that we saw a rise in voter participation to the tune of 11% to 14% seems born out by reports across the nation. But in any particular County, I am not sure how you would tell whether all votes were reported or not. Or whether the total meshed with the voter intention.

Even taking my old home COunty of Marin, a 11% to 14% increase in participation should mean that there would be more than 73% of the folks voting for Kerry - new voters usually are brought in by the Democrats in places like Marin. Instead, we saw a drop in percentage totals for Dems. And yet Sonoma COunty, one County North, went 82.5% for Kerry.

It would only cost me $ 161,000 to run and audit and find out.