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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-05 09:30 PM
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108. I don't know who Ms. Toad is. I do know about Diebold & Blackwell
Don't know about the receipts or whether or not they're retained.

With regard to how the issues lost, I'd say this. First, people go into vote on issues, amendments, bond issues with an opinion in mind when they issues mean something. Issue 2 "No" grew 30%. Issue 3 "No" grew 42% just 9-10 days before the election. Those are stunning shifts.

Lets say there is an election and candidate "Hell Yes" is running against candidate, "No Way." Hell Yes is leading No Way by 42%. All of a sudden, three days before the election it's revealed that Hell Yes is married to his first cousin and owns a topless bar. Then I could imagine a 42% shift, no problem. Saying that the campaign was less than it should have been or that people actually read an 8 page summary on the ballot (I need a link to believe that) is simply not enough. Many in Ohio are furious about 2004, you will agree. Taft is below 20% (or was) and the rest are faring poorly. The initiatives were a clear choice.

I can't believe this at all. I do accept that there are instant post-election recriminations by supports when a cause seemingly loses. That normal, par for the course reaction does not explain the loss any more than my opinion that the Raiders where cheated by the refs every time they played Pittsburgh explains those loses.

The poll is excellent evidence. It has a paper trail that can be reviewed.

It will be interesting to see how the Dispatch responds and also how the academics who praised the Dispatch's accuracy in over 30 races, most accurate polling around they say, respond.

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