Reply #3: It doesn't prove that Kerry won, all by itself, but combining it

[Peace Patriot]

with other information, the total picture is overwhelming.

Add up all the exit poll analysis by TIA. Bush simply could not have won in the way that he did. It's not just that Kerry won the exit polls, it's that the discrepancy between the exit polls and Bush's vote skews to the "red" in the east coast time zone. That is virtually impossible. (And that's just one of about 20 proofs--on the exit poll data alone.)

It's not just one or two examples of touchscreen voting machines changing Kerry votes to Bush votes. It's nearly 90 reported incidents, with only a two of them favoring Kerry. Again, impossible. (--and those were just the reported incidents; the "switch" was not easy for voters to catch.)

It's not just that almost all the votes in the country were tabulated by two companies using SECRET, PROPRIETARY software, it's that, in addition, both of these companies are run by rightwing Bushites.

It's not just that the Ohio election was all screwed up--with missing voting machines, and tens of thousands of misdirected and disenfranchised voters--it's that ALL of the many incidents of vote suppression happened in Democratic precincts.

It's not just that there were unfair voter purges in Florida, it's that all those who were purged were black voters (who vote about 80% Democratic).

And on and on. The list of such facts is very long.

And then you look at the opinion polls over the last year, which show that Americans hugely disapprove of every major Bush policy, foreign and domestic--way up in the 60% to 70% range. The Iraq war. The deficit. Social Security. You name it. My favorite: 63% of Americans disapprove of torturing prisoners UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES. Bush does not represent the majority of Americans on any issue!

Not to mention Bush's approval ratings, which have been low for a year--much too low for him to be re-elected, said Zogby. At a mere 49% on the very day of his inauguration. And sinking like the Titanic--to about 40% today. Where is his support NOW? WHAT has changed? He's the same old Bush, up to the same old fascist tricks on behalf of his billionaire handlers, still running the same old unjust and murderous war.

And then you go back and look at the election again. The Dems blew the Repubs away in new voter registration in 2004, nearly 60/40. New voters voted overwhelmingly for Kerry. Independent voters voted overwhelmingly for Kerry. Nader voters voted overwhelming for Kerry.

Who else is there--other than the Gore/Bush 2000 voters, who canceled each other out? (And don't tell me Gore repeat voters, who were cheated out of the presidency in 2000, voted for Bush, cuz I'll punch you in the nose! And there is zero proof of it. AND, it was the GORE VOTERS who got all those OTHER people--the new voters--TO register and vote THIS TIME--all their non-voting family members, and co-workers, and friends. "You're gonna vote THIS TIME, aren't you?" "You've got to vote THIS TIME!" "The most important election in our history!" Etc. Etc. Etc.)

Rove says they had an "invisible" get out the vote campaign. Right. What they had was a whole lot of truly invisible votes--invisible because they weren't real. The UC Berkeley statistical group found 130,000 to 260,000 phantom votes for Bush in Florida's 3 main Democratic counties--Miami-Dade, Broward and Palm Beach--in electronic vs paper voting. Those kind of votes. PHANTOM votes.

And then you look at this post by chrisclub--and you find out what people really think of Bush and his thieving, murderous Oil Cartel.

It's heartbreaking to know this, friends. But have courage, because we KNOW how to fix it.

The answer to the stink in Washington DC is state/local election reform. We must restore our right to vote! We must throw Diebold, ES&S and brethren out of the election business NOW! The only place where we can get that done is in state/local jurisdictions, where the authority over election systems still resides, and where ordinary people still have some say. See the DU Forum "2004 Election Results and Discussion" for information and action ideas:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topics&forum=203