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johnmilton Donating Member (19 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 10:38 PM
Response to Reply #94
95. framing the 04 election issue
Thanks for the response.

I think both your comments merit serious consideration,
more so than I can give in 1 post.

I agree you can introduce "intelligent design" in a biology class
but then what? Really, this is a real question. After you
introduce the notion you need to place the discussion, and in education since at least the Renaissance, intelligent design is
an argument for god and as such is taken up in either philosophy or theology. I happen to like those courses.
In my opinion, the push to teach intelligent design in a science class is simply a desire to combat evolution combined with a belief that it is more significant to teach something in a science class than in a philosophy class because science is (from this point of view) simply more important than philosophy/theology.

The latter point is true if you go by the numbers, that is by what
courses students are taking, and it is this fact that fuels the fight
to insert what is essentially a discussion about god in a science class.

I understand and share your fear about teaching ideology and non-truths (lets calls it) when talking about the 04 election. I did
not say teach that the polls are right or the election was stolen. I think your approach is a reasonable way to open this can of worms. What I believe is that we have got to open this can and I am not saying that I have the WAY to do it. I am
on this list because i want to share my thoughts with people about how to teach the whole paranoid whatever you want to call it. For this reason I will be teaching the 04 election with Freud on
paranoia, Orwell's 1984, and other stuff. I am happy to have
learned that Mark Crispin Miller's book will be out in time for me to include it (at least a bit of it) and Steve Freeman's book too.

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