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Febble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 05:53 AM
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179. You need to read a little more carefully
Mebane wrote - on April 6th 2004, i.e. before the 2004 election - not that the "voting would have been perfectly accurate" (where did you find that? if it's a paraphrase you shouldn't use quotes) but that:

"If the best type of vote tabulation system used in the state in 2000precinct-tabulated optical scan ballotshad been used everywhere in Florida, Gore would have won by more than 30,000 votes."

In other words, his study found that in 2000 the most accurate (note, not "perfectly accurate") machines were optical scan ballots, and that if all machines had been as accurate as the most accurate, Gore would have won by over 30,000 votes. In other words's he'd have been elected president. Pretty damning of the Florida 2000 election I would have thought. And based on direct evidence that in 2000, optical scan systems had fewest problems with over-votes. (And as I have pointed out elsewhere, whether those optical scanners compared favorably or otherwise with the new e-touch machines used in 2004 is not easy to determine. My findings were that they did worse; Hout et al found they did better. Others have concluded that there was no significant effect of machine. I found no effect of vendor.)

Then read Mebane's work on Franklin county. My point is that a man who has done sterling work on exposing the inequities of the US voting system still believes that Ohio probably wasn't stolen. Maybe you can convince him otherwise. But it might be worth reading his work first.
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