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Melissa G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 11:52 PM
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164. Okay Febble, Thanks for your articulate response..
Edited on Fri Aug-19-05 11:55 PM by Melissa G
Is this possibly a case of blind folks describing an elephant?

Here is my thinking. Your group is looking at the tail and we are looking at the trunk or vice versa if you will, but I am slightly colored by my perspective (grin) We will all in this group admit the enormous elephant of an unfair unverifiable election fraught with problems... The framing of the question then diverges.

In my group here in this forum and other places as well there was the question of were the Blivet votes came from when Dems did an unmatched effort of new voter registrations and motivated base turnout. This was unequaled on the repub side. We frame our analysis from this question. Your group doubts the validity of our approach.

Your approach, and I am being purposefully very vague here, centers around technicalities about polling noise and polling process. There are other threads where i have gone into detail on why i have my doubts about this approach but i am being general here and am just responding to concept. (No personal disrespect to you or OTOH but note my reference to the anatomical reference of what part of the elephant I ascribe this question to. grinning here)

Since it does not really answer the part of the elephant I am looking at, I think your question is more useless than you do. This in no way means I am right merely that I am more interested in my question than yours, which I generally understand as questions that speak to the technicalities of the polling process. Your group's work might give us valid information about process but it does not IMHO really do much to explain what is interesting to me about the enormous unexplainable vote shift. I find the heavily re weighted republican pre election poll defense unmoving and very weak as a supportive argument of the alleged shrub victory which is a rationale which has been posited as reason for the blivet win elsewhere..
Neither question is complete. They are tiny parts of a big elephant.

Bill bored has another leg of the elephant, Tabulators and election management systems. He thinks we election poll watchers are noisy too...
Best,
Melissa
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