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anaxarchos Donating Member (963 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 05:13 PM
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122. Finally, after all this sound and fury, we get to it....

You were wrong when you said: "I don't need to change any of the facts you cite. I only have to attempt, over and over, to explain why they don't prove your case (even in a very weak sense of "prove")."

You also have to present an alternative thesis which explains the data as well or better. You just did that (at least the "present" part). In fairness, there weren't many options to chose from. As you pointed out, there are only those who voted for Bush, voted for Kerry, voted for someone else or those who didn't vote in 2000. It's kinda like a water balloon, isn't it? You push in here and it pops out there. So, if you reject fraud and you reject Mitofsky's mix of 2000 Gore and Kerry voters (I won't quibble with your "notoriously unreliable", etc. - I might quibble with Febble, though, because that almost rhymes) and instead you believe that "Given the extreme partisan polarization of views about Bush, I imagine that turnout among Bush2K and Gore2K voters was fairly similar", then all you are left with is a red-shift larger than that implied by the NEP survey questions in one or more of the groups listed above (I think Mitofsky has used the "all groups" option already in his final weightings).

You choose Bush2K voters. OK.

Now all we need is some empirical evidence.... Make the case.

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