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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 09:51 PM
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70. Politics is just fine. Bush is going down, down, down....of course
Edited on Wed Aug-17-05 09:56 PM by autorank
one can always doubt the polls. When he gets to s certain point, people will wake up and realize, "hey, this guy is not at all trustworthy" and the "election fraud" argument will have it's fertile ground.

Look at this from Annenberg, prior to the election:

ONLY 62% OF REGISTERED VOTERS EXPECT THEIR VOTES TO BE ACCURATELY COUNTED, ANNENBERG DATA SHOWS.
http://www.annenbergpublicpolicycenter.org/naes/2004_03...

11/1/04

Republicans were very confident at a rate of 77% while Democrats and Independents shared that view at rates of 48% and 56% respectively.

The total for the poll was 62% of respondents were very confident that their votes would be accurately counted.

Well 42% not "very confident" pre election 2004 is weak ground if the legitimacy of this government is questioned.

At this point, we've had all the questions about 2004 raised and disseminated haphazardly. What do you think the confidence rate is now, even 50%? I don't know but a drop of 12% from pre election opinion is not at all unreasonable. What do you think the confidence level will be when CM (corporate media) actually covers election fraud?

This isn't an academic debate or an effort to help OTOH persuade his friends, it's about the fury of the people when they realize that they were had. The exit polls will be part of the rationale that is put forth to question legitimacy, the "hack-ability" of the system another part, and various acts of fraud uncovered in Ohio and elsewhere will arise also. In addition, we can expect the public to pay attention to new and current whistle blowers.

The only consistent paper trail is provided by the exit polls. However, the other consistent features of 2004 are voter suppression, lousy voting machines, insecure networks, and "vanishing ballots" that were never real in the first place. These elements all go together and are mutually reinforcing and supportive. For example, in Ohio, Kerry beat Bush as per the exit polls AND there is tremendous evidence of voter suppression, problems with machines, bogus recounting procedures, and bizarre happenings (the fictitious national security alert for Warren County). One more time for everybody: these elements are related and mutually supportive.

We were had, no two ways about it. That's the conclusion people are about to reach, in my opinion, and when they do it will be a great day for America. That conclusion is, as they say inside the beltway, "actionable."


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