Reply #73: thanks for a really good post. I agree with so much of what you wrote

[dandrhesse]

It would be a good idea to try to achieve our goals within the framework of the Dem party. The issue of stability is very important. We are on thin ice, teetering on the brink of self-destruction. But if people still voted for bush because they couldn't face reality we sure as heck aren't going to convince them of radical change.

Adopting the resolution mentioned could potentially be worse in the long run. It would require reordering of our political system. Which would essentially be a revolution. The segment of our population who are armed and dangerous generally speaking are not the liberals. We could risk not only idealogical takeover, but physical take over.

The reaction of the Democratic Party has puzzled me also. The only common thread is that no one reacted as expected. Not just a few, but literally no one. Which leads me to believe that either they knew this was coming and planned ahead or they are all in collusion. I opt for the first. I think there are a group of Senators and Reps that are fighting for us and our country.

Oddly, I didn't think that before all of this, but circumstances have made push come to shove very quickly and we have found out who has the guts to stand up and just say no.

I also agree that everything hinges on the vote. There is no other issue, everything else becomes a moot.

I also agree that it is doable. We need to mobilize. It is also doable to impeach bush and his whole cartel but it would take a movement on a grand scale. I believe that we can do it, and I wish the DNC would start giving some real direction on how to accomplish this instead of just asking for more money.

Commericials and rallies are not gonna do it.

I think there is hope, we just can't give up. I think all of the people that I spoke to during the campaign would be willing to write letters or emails if they knew who to bug! It doesn't do any good to spend energy on the wrong people.

During his campaign Kerry kept saying people are going to catch on to what bush is doing, the american people are not dumb, I have confidence they will figure it out.

They did, just like you said. They came out in record numbers and it was a landslide for Kerry. That is why I think he looked so depressed. He accomplished his goals, we accomplished our and still it did not go our way according to the vote count and he knew the long, hard road that we had ahead.

We can do it, one person at a time. Right the world leaders in other countries are doing more to help us than anything else. When Fidel Castro called bush deranged, that was saying something!

thanks for standing up
thanks for answering the call.