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Land Shark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 11:50 PM
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12. Secrecy and non-observability by nonexperts

In the worst case scenario, we are talking a slam dunk referendum for a constitutional amendment to state constitutions. Whose gonna vote for secret vote counting?

Open source loses some of the secrecy but still as a practical matter it will be quite expensive for any individual or even small group to verify what existed electronically on election day, verify that it was not subject to viruses or tampering, and in addition since this happens after the election there is tremendous pressure and spin not to raise issues at all, and besides most Democrats and a lot of Republicans can't afford to hire a computer expert to do so anyway. That's why I say it's important that the average citizen activist, without expert help, be able to verify both that their own vote was counted by that the process as a whole was fair. (If too many people, there can be a lottery or they can move the counting to a gymnasium or something.

Accuracy has to be front-loaded into the process, not at the expensive recount level. There are ways to do that by splitting ballots into hand counting groups and op-scanning machines (if needed) so that if the groups don't come out with similar results on election nite, no results are released until the problem is found. Thus, even if a person could succeed in tricking or corrupting his entire counting group, that will be caught by discrepancies with the other counting groups or methods.
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