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Edited on Sat Jan-29-05 02:13 PM by JunkYardDogg
Imenja, There was a definite reason why I posted this And Yes, I wish we had Paper Ballots, I'm lucky, where I live, Paper Ballots were used. Here are the reasons why I posted this, so that you and everybody else will understand: I spoke at our County Progressive meeting the other nite, our 2nd meeting, on the subject of rigged E-Voting Why, Because it is a subject which must be first and foremost FORCED upon the Public, specifically upon Dems, who do not seem to want to acknowledge this problem-That is why there is a fast emerging formation of Locally Based Progressive Activist groups, operating outside of the traditional non-confrontational parameters of the Democrats. The problem is now that there are not many people who have serious dissident political leadership experience. This goes to those of us from the '60's who went thru this and know how to git'er done. My politics are very confrontational and the best results come from Forcing people to think and act and acknowledge repressive politics. That being said, I now must repeat myself. The E-Voting machines are unfortunately here to stay. Unless we can build a HUGE, and I mean HUGE Public movement to terminate them. The only way that could happen is to prove that the E-Machines are rigged-WE all have a pretty good idea of how that is done. But there are IMMENSE obstacles in doing so. First and Foremost, as I have said, there is actually No law which enables American Citizens to get the Equipment impounded and investigated. I don't know about you, but that really pisses me off. It erodes and decimates the very foundation of the concept of American Democracy. There were 58 MILLION People who voted Democratic this past Election. It should be of great significance that we make every one of those 58 Million people know of and understand the E-Voting problem. Nobody is going to do it for us. We have to do it ourselves. This isn't Black Magic we're talking about here. When I spoke at the meeting, and I can talk some shit, I lit a fire under everybody. And surprise, just about everybody agreed that this is the most important thing which we need to fight right now. Someone in the group raised the issue that in California, in the next election, a paper trail (voting receipt) will be mandatory and it resulted in the opinion that we wouldn't have to worry anymore about Electronic manipulation. So, I got to thinking, what's wrong with this picture, how are we going to get fucked next. That's why I posted this topic. I think that it still leaves the door open for a good screwing. From a business viewpoint, if this was a business based accounting procedure, there would have to be a duplicate type of paper tape style roll used. One copy goes to the voter. The second copy stays on a roll on the machine. After voting, the roll would have to be reconciled to the Electronic-computer generated log-than the individual machine electronic-computer generated log would have to be transferred/transmitted to the central tabulators-than its gets more murky,less easy to trail and follow So where's the problem? Each machine has to be reconciled,the central tabulators have to be monitored. Do we have enough trained observers for EVERY Voting Location to do this? And , Legally can we, as monitors do this? I do not know. If we can, than we have less than two years to recruit and train enough poll-site monitors to do this. If legally we can't, we are back to where we are now. So, why I am so militant about forcing this issue upon the DU group- We have to deal with it, whether or not we want to. This is the reality of the situation. How do we deal with it How do we beat them How do we keep from getting screwed the next time If I pissed off anybody than good, We cannot afford to bury our collective heads in the sand any longer Idealistic dreams and goals are great, But deal with the Reality NOW
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